Comments on: ESPN Football: The One Game Impression http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/ Two guys who love Sports Gaming on their PCs and consoles rant and rave about various stuff. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:46:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Anonymous http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-136 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:06:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-136 I mentioned in an earlier post that I use Bill Harris's sliders, but I have tweaked them. I forgot to mentioned what I "tweaked". I turned down human passing and running. Seems to be working ok, as I mentioned, it varies from game to game.<br />Hmm, we havent heard from Bill in almost a day, and havent heard from Dan for a couple of days. Could they be immeresed in the ESPN experience and not have time to post? :)<br />Seriously, Bill, I hope you are playing around with the sliders and post them. I have always found that I typically agree with you sports games, so would love to see what you find as realistic sliders. I mentioned in an earlier post that I use Bill Harris’s sliders, but I have tweaked them. I forgot to mentioned what I “tweaked”. I turned down human passing and running. Seems to be working ok, as I mentioned, it varies from game to game.
Hmm, we havent heard from Bill in almost a day, and havent heard from Dan for a couple of days. Could they be immeresed in the ESPN experience and not have time to post? :)
Seriously, Bill, I hope you are playing around with the sliders and post them. I have always found that I typically agree with you sports games, so would love to see what you find as realistic sliders.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-135 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:30:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-135 http://www.consolefootball.com./documents/49.html<br />(scroll down past the review of the game)<br /><br />It has some excellent tips for first timers. The article claims qb spy doesn't work but it does. You need to do it with a zone defense and not manually blitz any linebackers.<br /><br />Roster updates are online, well they will be sooner or later.<br /><br />If you don't like bill's sliders (they are pretty good but some didn't like them) there is amassive post about sliders at the operation sports forum. Hellfan's sliders are the most popular right now. Can be located here:http://forums.operationsports.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1135222&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=64&vc=1<br />its about quarter way down the page and is a quotation of his actual post. http://www.consolefootball.com./documents/49.html
(scroll down past the review of the game)

It has some excellent tips for first timers. The article claims qb spy doesn’t work but it does. You need to do it with a zone defense and not manually blitz any linebackers.

Roster updates are online, well they will be sooner or later.

If you don’t like bill’s sliders (they are pretty good but some didn’t like them) there is amassive post about sliders at the operation sports forum. Hellfan’s sliders are the most popular right now. Can be located here:http://forums.operationsports.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1135222&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=64&vc=1
its about quarter way down the page and is a quotation of his actual post.

]]> By: Craig Tompkins http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-134 Craig Tompkins Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:31:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-134 I too have seen my RB get negative yards in his stats due to a clipping penalty. Maybe I can have it happen enough to really skew the stats for the year and sign a cheaper contract :) I too have seen my RB get negative yards in his stats due to a clipping penalty. Maybe I can have it happen enough to really skew the stats for the year and sign a cheaper contract :)

]]> By: bill http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-133 bill Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:43:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-133 Thanks for the comments guys. Appreciate it. Thanks for the comments guys. Appreciate it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-132 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:37:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-132 About big plays, I don't think the breakaways are as prevalent as last year. The tackle breaking isn't nearly as bad (big backs still drag defenders for extra yards tho) but defenders can catch up to most ball carriers, including fleet WRs.<br /><br />On passing game, the zones seem to give up too many completions, particularly deep posts and corners or any passes over the LBs. Also, quick little squareouts are open against most zones where the CBs drop back (not play short zones as in cover 2s).<br /><br />Where I think the game continues a problem from last year is the pass protection is bad even against the weakest defensive teams. You often have matador blocking against DTs, who still get an inordinate amount of sacks with the fan line stunt. Even with a 3-man rush, they can generate good pass pressure. Throw in a LB blitz and the QB almost always has to check down to a dump to the RB or a short pass. There should be some variability in this. Some teams blitzing won't always get to the QB. And certainly shouldn't be producing pressure with just a 3 or 4 man rush.<br /><br />But it appears that the only way to keep the passing game from dominating is with this overpowering pass rush, not necessarily with better pass defense by the LBs and DBs.<br /><br />wco81 About big plays, I don’t think the breakaways are as prevalent as last year. The tackle breaking isn’t nearly as bad (big backs still drag defenders for extra yards tho) but defenders can catch up to most ball carriers, including fleet WRs.

On passing game, the zones seem to give up too many completions, particularly deep posts and corners or any passes over the LBs. Also, quick little squareouts are open against most zones where the CBs drop back (not play short zones as in cover 2s).

Where I think the game continues a problem from last year is the pass protection is bad even against the weakest defensive teams. You often have matador blocking against DTs, who still get an inordinate amount of sacks with the fan line stunt. Even with a 3-man rush, they can generate good pass pressure. Throw in a LB blitz and the QB almost always has to check down to a dump to the RB or a short pass. There should be some variability in this. Some teams blitzing won’t always get to the QB. And certainly shouldn’t be producing pressure with just a 3 or 4 man rush.

But it appears that the only way to keep the passing game from dominating is with this overpowering pass rush, not necessarily with better pass defense by the LBs and DBs.

wco81

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-131 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:34:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-131 Now you've got me wondering about the safeties. In the last game I played, the CPU had not one but TWO breakout 70+ yard TD runs against me. If I see that happen again I'll have to check out the replay and see what the safeties are doing.<br /><br />To answer #2, I have noticed that the CPU throws into coverage too often. This probably leads to higher than normal incompletions and interceptions. Now you’ve got me wondering about the safeties. In the last game I played, the CPU had not one but TWO breakout 70+ yard TD runs against me. If I see that happen again I’ll have to check out the replay and see what the safeties are doing.

To answer #2, I have noticed that the CPU throws into coverage too often. This probably leads to higher than normal incompletions and interceptions.

]]> By: BluNole http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-130 BluNole Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:52:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-130 If you're on Xbox there's a guy at OperationSports named MMan who has released an updated roster. He has other versions to follow as well. Once I get someone's opening day rosters I'll be done with it. If you’re on Xbox there’s a guy at OperationSports named MMan who has released an updated roster. He has other versions to follow as well. Once I get someone’s opening day rosters I’ll be done with it.

]]> By: davet010 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-129 davet010 Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:29:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-129 Played my first as well last night - got caned 41-10 by the Titans (I was the Bengals).<br /><br />I was using Bill Harris's sliders as well, but boy does this game take long to play, even at 8 min quarters. Why does the opposition always snap with 20 on the clock ; they were even doing it in the last 3 minutes when they'd already beaten me, and this was pre-season.<br /><br />My passing was abysmal - I was 10/29, with 2 ints. For some reason, the camera seems just a little too far away from the action for me to pick the best pass out.<br /><br />Managed to trigger the clipping stat bug - Rudy Johnson got credited with a -41 yard run, which ruined his stats somewhat.<br /><br />Rosters - Bengal ones weren't too bad (at least all the rookies are in this year), but they appear to be at least 6 weeks old. I'm hoping that some up to date ones hit the streets soon.<br /><br />Few tweaks tonite, methinks. Played my first as well last night - got caned 41-10 by the Titans (I was the Bengals).

I was using Bill Harris’s sliders as well, but boy does this game take long to play, even at 8 min quarters. Why does the opposition always snap with 20 on the clock ; they were even doing it in the last 3 minutes when they’d already beaten me, and this was pre-season.

My passing was abysmal - I was 10/29, with 2 ints. For some reason, the camera seems just a little too far away from the action for me to pick the best pass out.

Managed to trigger the clipping stat bug - Rudy Johnson got credited with a -41 yard run, which ruined his stats somewhat.

Rosters - Bengal ones weren’t too bad (at least all the rookies are in this year), but they appear to be at least 6 weeks old. I’m hoping that some up to date ones hit the streets soon.

Few tweaks tonite, methinks.

]]> By: kingsrok http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-128 kingsrok Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:54:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-128 you just need to tweek the slider Coverage up. i am tweeking and the human offense all pro vs the cpu defense all pro is close to ok. just kick up human running and blocking a bit and cpu coverage. <br />i upped all the cpu offense up to 39 and the human defense up to 32 and it seemed better. i was intercepting about 4 or 5 a game with the chargers d before. <br /><br />i have only one game with this and it might work but i need several more to see.<br /><br />i am taking too long because i watch too many replays. you just need to tweek the slider Coverage up. i am tweeking and the human offense all pro vs the cpu defense all pro is close to ok. just kick up human running and blocking a bit and cpu coverage.
i upped all the cpu offense up to 39 and the human defense up to 32 and it seemed better. i was intercepting about 4 or 5 a game with the chargers d before.

i have only one game with this and it might work but i need several more to see.

i am taking too long because i watch too many replays.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-127 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:31:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-127 The game varies to me. Some games I can rack up passing yards, others they completely shut me down.<br />If I rush for 100 yards, I feel pretty good.<br />For the CPU offense, it could use some tweaking. I have been lit up by both passing and running. But I feel the norm is more of the CPU having a bad offense.<br /><br />I play All-Pro, 8 minute quarters, and a tweaked set sliders based off of Bill Harris's. The game varies to me. Some games I can rack up passing yards, others they completely shut me down.
If I rush for 100 yards, I feel pretty good.
For the CPU offense, it could use some tweaking. I have been lit up by both passing and running. But I feel the norm is more of the CPU having a bad offense.

I play All-Pro, 8 minute quarters, and a tweaked set sliders based off of Bill Harris’s.

]]> By: BluNole http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-126 BluNole Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:30:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2004/07/27/espn-football-the-one-game-impression/#comment-126 I wish I could answer those questions for you but I've only played one full game myself and I got the game at noon on release day. I am about to plug in the sliders from Bill Harris' slider project and see how they fare. I wonder if he'll do something similar for NCAA. I sure as hell hope so. ;) I wish I could answer those questions for you but I’ve only played one full game myself and I got the game at noon on release day. I am about to plug in the sliders from Bill Harris’ slider project and see how they fare. I wonder if he’ll do something similar for NCAA. I sure as hell hope so. ;)

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