Comments on: MLB 2K7 — The Three Year Plan — The $60 Price Tag http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/ Two guys who love Sports Gaming on their PCs and consoles rant and rave about various stuff. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:36:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Scott http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4556 Scott Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:48:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4556 you have to swing waaaaaay to early in this game - way earlier than any game i've played before you have to swing waaaaaay to early in this game - way earlier than any game i’ve played before

]]> By: bill abner http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4553 bill abner Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:25:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4553 supes...I have pitch speed down to *30* and Zambrano fanned me 12 times this morning. <br/><br/>I dunno what it is, but I cannot hit for shit yet and I'm really struggling determining pitches at this point. <br/><br/>And yeah Neil..you'll never get me to understand why/how just putting a band-aide on franchise mode would have required an entire re-write. It's the same issues from 2K6 for the most part. supes…I have pitch speed down to *30* and Zambrano fanned me 12 times this morning.

I dunno what it is, but I cannot hit for shit yet and I’m really struggling determining pitches at this point.

And yeah Neil..you’ll never get me to understand why/how just putting a band-aide on franchise mode would have required an entire re-write. It’s the same issues from 2K6 for the most part.

]]> By: SupesDied http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4552 SupesDied Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:36:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4552 Unless the ball is well inside or outside, I have little chance of reading it. I thought about turning down pitch speed, but I'm going to give it a little more time.<br/><br/>I really miss the feature, from World Series Baseball, that left a marker for previous pitch locations - from the last at-bat, I believe. And this game doesn't even leave a marker for more than a second. I also can't figure out how to see a replay of a pitch to know where it ended up, how it broke, etc. Is that possible? Unless the ball is well inside or outside, I have little chance of reading it. I thought about turning down pitch speed, but I’m going to give it a little more time.

I really miss the feature, from World Series Baseball, that left a marker for previous pitch locations - from the last at-bat, I believe. And this game doesn’t even leave a marker for more than a second. I also can’t figure out how to see a replay of a pitch to know where it ended up, how it broke, etc. Is that possible?

]]> By: bill abner http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4551 bill abner Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:36:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4551 Am I the only one who thinks it is incredibly hard to tell a ball from a strike in this game? Zoomed in, zoomed out...it's friggin impossible. Am I the only one who thinks it is incredibly hard to tell a ball from a strike in this game? Zoomed in, zoomed out…it’s friggin impossible.

]]> By: Neil http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4550 Neil Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:15:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4550 The annoying thing is that it takes so little work to fix those sorts of Franchise mode problems. A month of one designer and one programmer's time would be more than enough to make it near-flawless if they were smart.<br/><br/>As it is, I'm not really sold on 2KSports' promotion of their new designer as the magic cure-all for the series. I've never liked it when companies promote their designers like rock stars, although it was kinda funny to see people parrot the "OMG they have Brinkman! Now the game will be great!" message from 2KSports. <br/><br/>As far the hours of entertainment for the price, I don't think that way at all. Sports games are supposed to have high replay value. They also are weaker than other types of games in some areas. So judging their value by time spent on them alone doesn't make sense to me. I don't value double cheeseburgers at McDonald's highly just because they fill me up for a week for the same price as a single meal at a nice restaurant. Instead, I compare a sports game to what I think are my reasonable expectations for the quality of the game. <br/><br/>There's always next year... The annoying thing is that it takes so little work to fix those sorts of Franchise mode problems. A month of one designer and one programmer’s time would be more than enough to make it near-flawless if they were smart.

As it is, I’m not really sold on 2KSports’ promotion of their new designer as the magic cure-all for the series. I’ve never liked it when companies promote their designers like rock stars, although it was kinda funny to see people parrot the “OMG they have Brinkman! Now the game will be great!” message from 2KSports.

As far the hours of entertainment for the price, I don’t think that way at all. Sports games are supposed to have high replay value. They also are weaker than other types of games in some areas. So judging their value by time spent on them alone doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t value double cheeseburgers at McDonald’s highly just because they fill me up for a week for the same price as a single meal at a nice restaurant. Instead, I compare a sports game to what I think are my reasonable expectations for the quality of the game.

There’s always next year…

]]> By: bill abner http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4546 bill abner Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:13:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4546 I think it's *all* about how you play them. I played 20 seasons (roughly) of High Heat 2002. That was playing 1 game of each series. I'd play 1 game of a 3 game set, etc. <br/><br/>I think I went for 10 seasons in NCAA 04. I think. It was at least 8. <br/><br/>Tht thing is, for me, when playing a baseball game I play as the Reds. The Reds need time to be turned into a championship team. In a football game --I'm the Browns. Same deal. I need a few years to get a roster in order. I don't want to play as the Patriots.<br/><br/>I rarely, if ever, play every game of every season. I do a lot of playing and a lot of simming so I can get to the rollover needed to make a franchise mode worthwhile.<br/><br/>In this game, I think you can have a lot of fun playing a single season, but when you start to adbvance the years, I think the game is still pretty much broken. <br/><br/>Again, whether or not that's a problem is a personal thing. But the franchise mode is a heafy bit of code, too. It's a pretty big part of the game and for it to be busted, knowingly, and for the game to still run $60, I think is BS. I think it’s *all* about how you play them. I played 20 seasons (roughly) of High Heat 2002. That was playing 1 game of each series. I’d play 1 game of a 3 game set, etc.

I think I went for 10 seasons in NCAA 04. I think. It was at least 8.

Tht thing is, for me, when playing a baseball game I play as the Reds. The Reds need time to be turned into a championship team. In a football game –I’m the Browns. Same deal. I need a few years to get a roster in order. I don’t want to play as the Patriots.

I rarely, if ever, play every game of every season. I do a lot of playing and a lot of simming so I can get to the rollover needed to make a franchise mode worthwhile.

In this game, I think you can have a lot of fun playing a single season, but when you start to adbvance the years, I think the game is still pretty much broken.

Again, whether or not that’s a problem is a personal thing. But the franchise mode is a heafy bit of code, too. It’s a pretty big part of the game and for it to be busted, knowingly, and for the game to still run $60, I think is BS.

]]> By: Scott http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4545 Scott Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:48:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4545 i bitch about franchise bugs and player progression etc. then i sit and think about how many games i've actually devoted enough time to to play out more than one or two seasons - the answer? two - mvp2005 only because it's been out for two plus years and ncaa2007 because i love college football so much. <br/><br/>mlb2k7 is fun - it has a ton of sliders that apparently are very sensitive and actually work - and it looks great. the lineup thing is a little disconcerting but again it's not going to affect me hardly at all the way i play. i bitch about franchise bugs and player progression etc. then i sit and think about how many games i’ve actually devoted enough time to to play out more than one or two seasons - the answer? two - mvp2005 only because it’s been out for two plus years and ncaa2007 because i love college football so much.

mlb2k7 is fun - it has a ton of sliders that apparently are very sensitive and actually work - and it looks great. the lineup thing is a little disconcerting but again it’s not going to affect me hardly at all the way i play.

]]> By: bill abner http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4544 bill abner Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:15:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4544 Well said seth Well said seth

]]> By: Seth http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4543 Seth Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:00:00 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2007/03/01/mlb-2k7-the-three-year-plan-the-60-price-tag/#comment-4543 Yeah, I've felt a lot of empathy for the "annual sports games are a ripoff" argument. But then I check out a site like 360voice.com and look at my most played titles, and it shocks me how many hours of gameplay I seem to get out of even middling sports titles compared to what I'd consider my triple-A games from other genres. NCAA Football '07 and NBA 2K7 trumped games like Oblivion and Dead Rising in playtime, and it feels like I've played those last two games a TON. I don't even like NBA 2K7 that much! MLB 2K7 has its problems, but there's so much about it that excites me that the deficiencies are overshadowed... in part because I realize more and more how futile Franchise modes are for me, and that I'm better suited to trying different teams in season mode and other modes that require less commitment. So yeah, there are some headscratching things, and it feels wrong to pay full price for a 'first draft', so to speak, when it all shakes down, I'll probably get more value from this than many other games that are spared such criticisms. Yeah, I’ve felt a lot of empathy for the “annual sports games are a ripoff” argument. But then I check out a site like 360voice.com and look at my most played titles, and it shocks me how many hours of gameplay I seem to get out of even middling sports titles compared to what I’d consider my triple-A games from other genres. NCAA Football ‘07 and NBA 2K7 trumped games like Oblivion and Dead Rising in playtime, and it feels like I’ve played those last two games a TON. I don’t even like NBA 2K7 that much! MLB 2K7 has its problems, but there’s so much about it that excites me that the deficiencies are overshadowed… in part because I realize more and more how futile Franchise modes are for me, and that I’m better suited to trying different teams in season mode and other modes that require less commitment. So yeah, there are some headscratching things, and it feels wrong to pay full price for a ‘first draft’, so to speak, when it all shakes down, I’ll probably get more value from this than many other games that are spared such criticisms.

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