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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/17/wednesday-night-notes-6/#comment-7197</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed your post from before madtowner, sorry I didn't respond to it.  

I think the team was responsive when Brett said he had changed his mind in March.  They had things all set to come down there and get the deal done to bring him back, but then Brett changed his mind.  

What bothers me as a Packer fan is that you have a player with 3 years left on his contract that is crying and complaining about how he's being treated and wants to go elsewhere.  Once you forget that it's Favre doing it, it just seems like any other athlete that is trying to put themself above everyone else on the team.

C'mon, do you actually think Moss would have done that well in Green Bay?  Not a chance... it's not even close to the same system.  Considering the Packers operated on a quick slant offense last year, with maybe 2 shots downfield a game, Moss might have had a 10 TD year...and could have gotten hurt going over the middle.  As it was, they had all of their young guys get used to the system and grow in it.  I'd rather have Jennings and Driver, than Driver and Moss.  

The good thing about the Vikings issue is that there isn't any chance he'll ever end up there... they'll let him rot on the roster, eating 12 million a year, never playing in a game before they would release him to go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed your post from before madtowner, sorry I didn&#8217;t respond to it.  </p>
<p>I think the team was responsive when Brett said he had changed his mind in March.  They had things all set to come down there and get the deal done to bring him back, but then Brett changed his mind.  </p>
<p>What bothers me as a Packer fan is that you have a player with 3 years left on his contract that is crying and complaining about how he&#8217;s being treated and wants to go elsewhere.  Once you forget that it&#8217;s Favre doing it, it just seems like any other athlete that is trying to put themself above everyone else on the team.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, do you actually think Moss would have done that well in Green Bay?  Not a chance&#8230; it&#8217;s not even close to the same system.  Considering the Packers operated on a quick slant offense last year, with maybe 2 shots downfield a game, Moss might have had a 10 TD year&#8230;and could have gotten hurt going over the middle.  As it was, they had all of their young guys get used to the system and grow in it.  I&#8217;d rather have Jennings and Driver, than Driver and Moss.  </p>
<p>The good thing about the Vikings issue is that there isn&#8217;t any chance he&#8217;ll ever end up there&#8230; they&#8217;ll let him rot on the roster, eating 12 million a year, never playing in a game before they would release him to go there.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/17/wednesday-night-notes-6/#comment-7196</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can't pull for any team from Chicago... it's just not possible the way that my DNA is configured or something.  

I wish they would just go back to the old glove logo on a daily basis.  Seeing it every Friday home game just reminds me that they got rid of it for no good reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t pull for any team from Chicago&#8230; it&#8217;s just not possible the way that my DNA is configured or something.  </p>
<p>I wish they would just go back to the old glove logo on a daily basis.  Seeing it every Friday home game just reminds me that they got rid of it for no good reason.</p>
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		<title>By: madtowner11</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/17/wednesday-night-notes-6/#comment-7194</link>
		<dc:creator>madtowner11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the Brewers didn't deserve to win another game the second after they mothballed the COOLEST LOGO IN ALL OF SPORTS.  Nothing in any sport compares to the Brewers' m/b glove logo.  The day they changed it I became a Cubs fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the Brewers didn&#8217;t deserve to win another game the second after they mothballed the COOLEST LOGO IN ALL OF SPORTS.  Nothing in any sport compares to the Brewers&#8217; m/b glove logo.  The day they changed it I became a Cubs fan.</p>
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		<title>By: MeanOnSunday</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/17/wednesday-night-notes-6/#comment-7193</link>
		<dc:creator>MeanOnSunday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another vote here for Favre and for the Cubbies (come on, Wisconsin doesnt have a real baseball team just some beantown boys that left for Atlanta, and the AL imposters owned by a guy so clueless he thinks there are ties in baseball).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another vote here for Favre and for the Cubbies (come on, Wisconsin doesnt have a real baseball team just some beantown boys that left for Atlanta, and the AL imposters owned by a guy so clueless he thinks there are ties in baseball).</p>
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		<title>By: madtowner11</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/17/wednesday-night-notes-6/#comment-7192</link>
		<dc:creator>madtowner11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I'll grant you is that Favre looks like a diva when it comes to the Randy Moss/Mooch thing.  But, what?  Favre doesn't have a right to express his opinions?  Management doesn't HAVE to listen to him and he knew that, but he made his opinions known internally to the organization and management went on to lie to the public about the whole thing--the first sign of something rotten in Packer management.  By the way, how did Randy Moss do in New England last year?

Within 3 weeks of his tearful farewell press conference, Favre started dropping not-too-subtle hints to McCarthy and Thompson that he wanted to play again.  They already had their minds made up, though.  This is about Thompson's ego:  He wants his draft pick to start at QB so he can show the world what a great GM he is.  Meanwhile a legend QB with at least one more solid year in him is getting hosed.

I'm the biggest Packers fan I know, and as much as I love the Packers I HATE the Vikings.  Yet at this point with all the bull that Thompson is putting Favre through, I find myself hoping Brett ends up in Minnesota and kicks the Packers' ass at least twice this upcoming season.

This isn't a Favre-has-done-so-much-for-the-organization-so-now-we-owe-him opinion on my part, either.  The fact is that Favre has at least one more awesome year in him and we'd be stupid to waste it all simply because our GM is a stubborn egomaniac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I&#8217;ll grant you is that Favre looks like a diva when it comes to the Randy Moss/Mooch thing.  But, what?  Favre doesn&#8217;t have a right to express his opinions?  Management doesn&#8217;t HAVE to listen to him and he knew that, but he made his opinions known internally to the organization and management went on to lie to the public about the whole thing&#8211;the first sign of something rotten in Packer management.  By the way, how did Randy Moss do in New England last year?</p>
<p>Within 3 weeks of his tearful farewell press conference, Favre started dropping not-too-subtle hints to McCarthy and Thompson that he wanted to play again.  They already had their minds made up, though.  This is about Thompson&#8217;s ego:  He wants his draft pick to start at QB so he can show the world what a great GM he is.  Meanwhile a legend QB with at least one more solid year in him is getting hosed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the biggest Packers fan I know, and as much as I love the Packers I HATE the Vikings.  Yet at this point with all the bull that Thompson is putting Favre through, I find myself hoping Brett ends up in Minnesota and kicks the Packers&#8217; ass at least twice this upcoming season.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a Favre-has-done-so-much-for-the-organization-so-now-we-owe-him opinion on my part, either.  The fact is that Favre has at least one more awesome year in him and we&#8217;d be stupid to waste it all simply because our GM is a stubborn egomaniac.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.  I'm breaking my own vow of silence on this, but here goes...

In the beginning I didn't like how he was playing it because he was trying to make it look like he was forced out.  How many years was he going to do the whole 'Am I coming back or not?' thing before the team finally decided to move on.  They couldn't keep affording to wait until May or June every year.  It's a business, you can't have your employees dictating your entire future plan to you. 

The fact that he jerked the team around just before the draft bothers me as well.  I'm un-retiring... well... .maybe not... 

Add that to his bitterness because Ted Thompson didn't run the organization the way that HE wanted it to be run (Interviewing Mooch for the head coach, resigning Wahle and Rivera (two of the best decisions Thompson has made to date,) and the Randy Moss thing,) and you have a guy who is just acting bitter about how he thinks he should have been treated.  He seems to be saying, 'I didn't get my way... so I'll try to make everyone look bad.'  

Well, Brett... you've done that... and made yourself look bad as well.  

I'm not sure that Brett gives the Packers the best chance to win at this point.  Especially with how he's completely fragmented the locker room at this point (Young guys want Rodgers, older guys want Favre.)

Sadly, it isn't ending any time soon... and it annoys me every minute that I hear about it.  

He was with the team for a long time and he had a terrific run.  I just don't want to see the guy end his career like this.  

Oh, and F' the Cubbies.  heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.  I&#8217;m breaking my own vow of silence on this, but here goes&#8230;</p>
<p>In the beginning I didn&#8217;t like how he was playing it because he was trying to make it look like he was forced out.  How many years was he going to do the whole &#8216;Am I coming back or not?&#8217; thing before the team finally decided to move on.  They couldn&#8217;t keep affording to wait until May or June every year.  It&#8217;s a business, you can&#8217;t have your employees dictating your entire future plan to you. </p>
<p>The fact that he jerked the team around just before the draft bothers me as well.  I&#8217;m un-retiring&#8230; well&#8230; .maybe not&#8230; </p>
<p>Add that to his bitterness because Ted Thompson didn&#8217;t run the organization the way that HE wanted it to be run (Interviewing Mooch for the head coach, resigning Wahle and Rivera (two of the best decisions Thompson has made to date,) and the Randy Moss thing,) and you have a guy who is just acting bitter about how he thinks he should have been treated.  He seems to be saying, &#8216;I didn&#8217;t get my way&#8230; so I&#8217;ll try to make everyone look bad.&#8217;  </p>
<p>Well, Brett&#8230; you&#8217;ve done that&#8230; and made yourself look bad as well.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that Brett gives the Packers the best chance to win at this point.  Especially with how he&#8217;s completely fragmented the locker room at this point (Young guys want Rodgers, older guys want Favre.)</p>
<p>Sadly, it isn&#8217;t ending any time soon&#8230; and it annoys me every minute that I hear about it.  </p>
<p>He was with the team for a long time and he had a terrific run.  I just don&#8217;t want to see the guy end his career like this.  </p>
<p>Oh, and F&#8217; the Cubbies.  heh.</p>
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		<title>By: madtowner11</title>
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		<dc:creator>madtowner11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe your attitude towards Favre.  Who has a better year this season as starting QB for the Packers:  Favre or Rodgers?  Everyone agrees that Favre is the better QB this year.  So because Favre was persuaded to make his retirement decision while his motivation was at its yearly low, you're now going to throw him under the bus because he wants to play now?

Anyone who isn't backing Favre at this point in time (especially after the Faux News interview with Gerta Von Cesspool) must not have ever really been a Favre fan in the first place.

And because you're such a jerk about Favre, Glen:  Go Cubbies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe your attitude towards Favre.  Who has a better year this season as starting QB for the Packers:  Favre or Rodgers?  Everyone agrees that Favre is the better QB this year.  So because Favre was persuaded to make his retirement decision while his motivation was at its yearly low, you&#8217;re now going to throw him under the bus because he wants to play now?</p>
<p>Anyone who isn&#8217;t backing Favre at this point in time (especially after the Faux News interview with Gerta Von Cesspool) must not have ever really been a Favre fan in the first place.</p>
<p>And because you&#8217;re such a jerk about Favre, Glen:  Go Cubbies!</p>
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