Comments on: Thank you, Mr. Moore http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/ Two guys who love Sports Gaming on their PCs and consoles rant and rave about various stuff. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:36:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: jonahfalcon http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/#comment-7221 jonahfalcon Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:57:54 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/?p=4320#comment-7221 "I was being sarcastic about Brinkman. He’s made worse games each year in the 2K series. Bringing him back to EA might allow the 2K games to finally improve… " Why? And by the way, I hated the MVP series. I don't understand the love for it. Brinkman adds too much extraneous shit to his games that don't really improve the important things - AI, fielding, etc. “I was being sarcastic about Brinkman. He’s made worse games each year in the 2K series. Bringing him back to EA might allow the 2K games to finally improve… ”

Why? And by the way, I hated the MVP series. I don’t understand the love for it.

Brinkman adds too much extraneous shit to his games that don’t really improve the important things - AI, fielding, etc.

]]> By: Glen http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/#comment-7216 Glen Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:06:14 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/?p=4320#comment-7216 I was being sarcastic about Brinkman. He's made worse games each year in the 2K series. Bringing him back to EA might allow the 2K games to finally improve... Loren, I don't think we go in looking for problems... we should be able to go in hoping that things work as they should. You just listed off more things than should ever be acceptable for a sports game release (and still left off others.) They keep trying to add more and more features every year, which would be great if they didn't keep making their development cycle shorter every season, which leads to more and more broken features. Sure they might fix one or two things that were broken last year, but they add more bugs than they fix. If we, the hardcore sports gamer, don't complain about what's broken, who will? I think they all want us to become part of the mainstream and just look at a game and say, well... they did a decent job... that's worth $60 every year. I can't do that anymore. I want them to do a great job. That's when it's worth $60 for me. I was being sarcastic about Brinkman. He’s made worse games each year in the 2K series. Bringing him back to EA might allow the 2K games to finally improve…

Loren, I don’t think we go in looking for problems… we should be able to go in hoping that things work as they should. You just listed off more things than should ever be acceptable for a sports game release (and still left off others.) They keep trying to add more and more features every year, which would be great if they didn’t keep making their development cycle shorter every season, which leads to more and more broken features. Sure they might fix one or two things that were broken last year, but they add more bugs than they fix.

If we, the hardcore sports gamer, don’t complain about what’s broken, who will?

I think they all want us to become part of the mainstream and just look at a game and say, well… they did a decent job… that’s worth $60 every year.

I can’t do that anymore. I want them to do a great job. That’s when it’s worth $60 for me.

]]> By: srudoff http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/#comment-7214 srudoff Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:59:48 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/?p=4320#comment-7214 you're joking about ben brinkman right? mlb2k8 is so much worse than mlb2k7 - he can't go on living on mvp2005 laurels forever you’re joking about ben brinkman right? mlb2k8 is so much worse than mlb2k7 - he can’t go on living on mvp2005 laurels forever

]]> By: pb4201 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/#comment-7213 pb4201 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:44 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/?p=4320#comment-7213 Peter Moore= Failed Dreamcast Peter Moore= 3 rings of Death Peter Moore= Perfect Guy to lead shitty EA to Hell! Peter Moore= Failed Dreamcast
Peter Moore= 3 rings of Death
Peter Moore= Perfect Guy to lead shitty EA to Hell!

]]> By: Loren http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/#comment-7211 Loren Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:44:01 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/?p=4320#comment-7211 The thing is to the mainstream consumer (the ones who go out and buy the majority of copies of NCAA, Madden, etc. every year) in this case they really don't care about the stuff many of us do: simulating games, playing online in order to determine stats, etc. Instead all they are looking for is a fun game of football or the ability to play with their friends online. That is the type of person a review like 1Up's is going to shoot for (I haven't read it, so pardon me if he goes into the problems with the game), not the sim heavy crowds of the Bills (Harris and Abner), Operation Sports forum goers, us and whomever else likes to run simulations. The fact is that NCAA 09 plays a better game of football than last year or the year before. The game seems faster, the graphics on the field are better (trust me, I went back to 08 to be sure I wasn't hallucinating), the stuttering in-between plays is absent, etc.. There are many broken things that EA may or may not be able to fix (Human sliders tied to CPU sliders, CPU sliders not working by themselves, broken kickoff/punt, broken defensive line mechanic, broken online dynasty, sameness of Campus Legend from last year, etc.), but the game does bring an enjoyable football experience to the table. Sometimes that is all the mainstream player cares about to be perfectly honest. We are the ones that worry over such things as CPU Robo QB, QB high completion rate in simulation, moving a slider one way or the other ruining simulations, etc. I think we lose that perspective every year when these games come out honestly. We go into these games looking for problems when maybe we should also be thinking about the mainstream player and how they might perceive the game versus how we perceive it, you know? The thing is to the mainstream consumer (the ones who go out and buy the majority of copies of NCAA, Madden, etc. every year) in this case they really don’t care about the stuff many of us do: simulating games, playing online in order to determine stats, etc. Instead all they are looking for is a fun game of football or the ability to play with their friends online. That is the type of person a review like 1Up’s is going to shoot for (I haven’t read it, so pardon me if he goes into the problems with the game), not the sim heavy crowds of the Bills (Harris and Abner), Operation Sports forum goers, us and whomever else likes to run simulations.

The fact is that NCAA 09 plays a better game of football than last year or the year before. The game seems faster, the graphics on the field are better (trust me, I went back to 08 to be sure I wasn’t hallucinating), the stuttering in-between plays is absent, etc.. There are many broken things that EA may or may not be able to fix (Human sliders tied to CPU sliders, CPU sliders not working by themselves, broken kickoff/punt, broken defensive line mechanic, broken online dynasty, sameness of Campus Legend from last year, etc.), but the game does bring an enjoyable football experience to the table. Sometimes that is all the mainstream player cares about to be perfectly honest. We are the ones that worry over such things as CPU Robo QB, QB high completion rate in simulation, moving a slider one way or the other ruining simulations, etc.

I think we lose that perspective every year when these games come out honestly. We go into these games looking for problems when maybe we should also be thinking about the mainstream player and how they might perceive the game versus how we perceive it, you know?

]]> By: Glen http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/#comment-7210 Glen Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:29:22 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/?p=4320#comment-7210 I'll give you that, but I can't hold out any hope that the game will be improved on the last version... as they didn't even talk about it at E3. I’ll give you that, but I can’t hold out any hope that the game will be improved on the last version… as they didn’t even talk about it at E3.

]]> By: wadman http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/2008/07/21/thank-you-mr-moore/#comment-7209 wadman Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:14:28 +0000 http://www.sportsgamerblog.com/?p=4320#comment-7209 The only exception I would make with EA right now is with NHL. The dual analog control is more fun than I thought it would be. The only exception I would make with EA right now is with NHL. The dual analog control is more fun than I thought it would be.

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